Thursday, 20 September 2007

  • ADHD Awareness Pt 2

    In my last post I mentioned medicine for ADHD. It's not for everyone, but my point was, please don't be afraid to try it. There are several things out there and please, please, don't just rely on medication, but go for behaviour modification as well. That way both you and your kiddo begin to learn what works and what doesn't.

    When my kids were small I was constantly rearranging their room trying to make things "work" for them. I remember not understanding why this had to be so hard for them. What was so hard about picking up their toys, putting away their clothes and finding their shoes? Why was it so bloody difficult to get them from point A to point B without a meltdown-theirs or mine? Of course now I know. I was using all the conventional methods of organizing the kid's rooms. No wonder it didn't work. They knew if it was out of sight, it would be out of mind so they kept everything in sight-all over the place! It would of been so much easier to work with them instead of against them had I only known. Ironically as an adult I had always done the same thing, I just never put two and two together.

    Many of you don't know this, but I am one of the world's most famous pilots. No really I am. I pile it here and I pile it there....I pile stuff everywhere! As a teenager I remember completely frustrating my mother who would come in for dirty clothes. "But which pile is dirty?" she would ask.
    "Simple," I would say,  "The dirty pile is on the floor in the closet. I don't want to see my dirty clothes. The clean ones are in the piles by the bed."  Made perfect sense to me.
    And I still do the same thing. The clothes in my closet are not the ones I wear. Those are for next season. The clothes I am still wearing for the summer are hanging in the laundry room or are folded and put away on open shelves in my bedroom. On my way out of the shower, I waltz thru the laundry room and grab the outfit of the day. Conventional? No, but then I've never been accused of that. The point is, it works. We need to see things to remember we have them.

    And now for the really tough issue-school. There are things that can be done for your kiddo or you, but you must make others aware help is needed. One of the best links I have found is done by Ira (thenarrator) and you can see it over at http://speedchange.blogspot.com/ . He has radical ideas for education-and all of them nothing short of amazing. Be prepared.

    I had mentioned music therapy. One of the things neurologists have discovered is that music can help rewire the brain to overcome obstacles-ie, in Parkinsons patients as I mentioned before. They have also found it helps in autistic children and adults and are now beginning to study the effects on ADHD/ADD. Things are looking promising. In the Austin public school system they found that autistic children could alter their behaviour with certain music. As some of you know, autism is just a few tap dances away from ADHD so this makes sense (if you didn't know, please don't freak out-just keep learning). This is where ipods and mp3 players come in handy. Ira also does an excellent post on that, which I'm sure you found. Let me kick it up a notch and take it to the adult world.

    In the office-if you can possibly get away with this, it might work for you. I have a cd player and several cd's that seem to be on about the right wave length for my work. This is music that is a few notices up from my sleep cycle, but not so much I find myself listening for it and trying to follow the beat or sing along with. It also doesn't put me to sleep. My favourite stuff is baroque and new age. . It's background noise to drown out other background noise-but with harmony and beauty. It actually helps my focus.  Be aware tho, it's one of those things that "to each his own".

    One of my favourite writers, Steven King, uses heavy metal. I can't swing that anymore, but back in my day I managed very well with Queen and Black Sabbath. That was at complete odds with my mother who always read that to help children study, you gave them a desk of their own and made sure the TV and stereo were off.
    Whatever.
    Most of the time she would walk in, find me sprawled between the desk, floor and bed, books, papers and pens everywhere, with the stereo blasting Aerosmith. Sound familiar?
    Work with it, not against it. Once again, Ira has some excellent ideas.

    I hope this post and the previous have been helpful to you. Judging from the kind of responses and messages I got I think it has been. (To the young man who asked me to elaborate on the sex being a whole different ballgame, nice try.) Keep learning and don't give up. My motto has always been "it's never too late to be what you might of become".
    Hang in there.

    Oh, and on a final note-one of my commenters mentioned that this is something predominatley in young boys-let's correct this here and now...NO, IT IS NOT. It is one of the most commonly misdiagnosed or flat out missed, things in girls-mostly because they don't act out as boys do. They are only now-in the last few years-beginning to understand how prominent it is in girls.
    Let the education continue!

    Currently Listening
    Toys in the Attic
    By Aerosmith
    see related

Comments (37)

  • I truly get what you are talking about.  And with my son, you can't just say "J. clean your room."  You might as well ask him to build a space shuttle.  I finally realized that.  Now, it's "J., pick up the toys on the floor."  Then it's "J., make your bed."  Keep it simple.  And if you want him to hand in his school papers, they have to be in his hand when you drop him off.  Otherwise they will sit in his book bag all week.  You have to find a niche that works for you and stick with it.  

    Thanks again one more time for these great posts! 

  • YOU'RE A FEATURED BLOGGER!!!!!!! WOWOWOWOWOW! Congratulations

  • So, sometimes it helps me to listen to music at work... but only if it is music I know well enough that I don't want to sing along or music that stirs my soul everytime I listen to it.  Music makes it so much easier for me to be distracted the majority of the time because I get so enthralled in the music that I can't do anything but get lost in the moment.... yeah.

    How are you today?

  • What about the benefits of being physically active and supplements, primarily being omega 3's and such? Medication is fine, if needed, but personal health plays a HUGE factor in ADHD... sugar consumption, fatty acids, proper carbohydrates...excercise....these are all things that have been proven over and over to go hand in hand with the disorder (with children and adults) but is overlooked to discuss either the controversy of medication or sensitivity to "learning styles".... which again both can be and are necessary but seem to be somewhat higher on the totem pole, if you will, in comparison to how you take care of your body. Maybe its a reflection of the majority, sadly?
    I guess to spawn another branch of discussion (should this not be deleted?or parts relayed in a separate blog) how much is personal health and wellness pushed into 2nd or 3rd place for any kind of related diagnosis?
    Thoughts, anyone?
  • Hey Girl, You made the front page of xanga!!! Congratulations!!!!

    I know what you mean about the piles and the things you are wearing are hanging in sight! This is another thing that works for me too! Things put in the closet feel like they are in storage.

    My parents never understood my study habits! They would always ask how could I study with so much activity! Truth be told I could never study or do anything in total quiet! I'm not wired that way.

    Are you having a good day today? Doing anything exciting, like shopping for a dress?    

  • I'm feeling a bit better.  Last night wasn't so good; I think my tummy had its revenge on me because I tattle-tailed on it yesterday.  The doc is supposed to call me today with the results of the first test (which wasn't for the issue I originally went in for but decided to get taken care of).  The other tests are going to be a while.  There are two possibilities... one sounds awful but can be treated with medicine... and the other they can't do anything about because it would just be my body's way of dealing with all the stress I'm under.  Truthfully, I hope it is something that they can make go away with medicine... stress doesn't go away with medicine... unless they use morphine, hahaha, jk, but no, seriously.

    I feel like I know famous people because of you and Hatsie!  I'm so lucky

  • Thanks! Being somewhat scattered myself (as I completely forget about what I'm doing to check out a interesting headline) I'm glad more attention is brought to it one way or another ;)
  • I'm so glad this conversation is going on... and, hey, I doubt anyone here can think I'm anymore "out there" than many in my college of education do..

    I'm glad you brought up the "male/female" myth. In my experience this is as common in girls/women but rarely dealt with since the manifestation is typically less "disruptive" (schools, especially primary schools, are usually designed - at least in the US - for stereotypical "girl" behavior patterns). Thus, boys get overmedicated and girls get overlooked.

  • Good morning Kate!  Again, I see myself here.  My house is arranged in piles.  Mostly on my kitchen table or my desk or my living room floor.  My parents built me a nice desk when I was in high school complete with a light and everything.  I piled things on it and did my homework in the kitchen.  Where my Mom and Oprah were   Now that I have my own house, my kitchen table and the end of my counter are the catch alls.  My computer lives on the futon in my living room, because that's where I do my best work.  My living room floor is covered with school books and papers, and flash cards and a notebook containing all of my grandmother's crochet patterns.  There's some yarn and some needles and a couple of half finished projects and a hole-punch.  In my bedroom is a laundry basket full of clean clothes (most of which I don't wear because I washed them so long ago I don't remember what's in the basket.  I remembered one of my favorite shirts today and had a terrible time finding it.  Turns out it was at the bottom of this basket).  There's also a basket full of dirty clothes.  In my closet.  Door closed.  All the clothes I wear regularly are in one of four places - hanging in my laundry room (!), on top of the clean-clothes basket, draped over the footboard of my bed, or chillin' out on the back of the armchair.  I do my best studying with a fan on.  When it's too cold for a fan, I listen to Yanni or my college team's football games.  For some reason that works better than the quiet (I only do total silence when I'm cramming... but even then I can only do it for short periods of time).  It makes me laugh that you describe me so perfectly when you write about ADHD.  I think I might look into some of those behavior modification books.  If I can get it under some semblance of control, I think it'd definitely take my stress-level down a few notches.

    Thanks for your prayers and encouragement   Congratulations on being featured!!

  • If ever there was a blog worthy of being featured these last three have been them!  I've been trying to figure out how to vote for yours so I've been footprinting all over the place.....I've even been over and read Ira's spot on education, you people are amazing.....keep it up k8t!!!

  • Thanks Kate. RYC--I think you are correct about the shirt thing. One of my favorite Xanga guys said that the shirt is OK, but the pants off would not be a good thing. lol  They will be here until about Oct. 5. The wife is out buying her tickets for Idaho. She will probably leave October 14 or 14 to help the mom an aunt get rid of the house and 3 stories of 'stuff.'

    The girl is going to be offered a room by a single gal at church who is a Realtor.  The mom wants her pregnant daughter out of the house. I think you are correct--the baby may heal some raw emotions.

    I never had a child with these disorders. My son was hyper-active and the shool wanted him to go on some kind of calming medication in the 60's.  My wife does not like prescrition drugs, the medical profession, psychologists, etc.  So Jim was the wild one of the family. He is still got a very strong personality, but he is doing fine.

    Blessings

    frank

  • hahaha - I did it!!!!!!

  • Wow....congrats...you have been featured!!  So proud of my Xangan friend. 

  • Congrats on being featured blogger. Great write KatieKate. Judi

  • You're right.  I'll make that correction right away. *sinister laugh here*

  • Out of sight- out of mind--- that's the story of my life. My sister could borrow clothes from me in college and weeks or months later I would remember that I used to have a blue shirt... and maybe my sister had it....

    I keep most of my clean work clothes on a rack right by the washing machine. I think it drives my husband crazy that I have clothes there, in my closet, in my drawers... but if I don't keep the things together that I mostly wear, I'll forget they exist. And I always have a pile of stuff on the coffee table. If I did not have pets, I would probably have piles on the floors.... but it's not safe with the pets.

  • I used to be the messy pile thing, but it was more of a "I don't want to put it away" thing.  I find that I'm much more calm when my room is clean.  I have open closets at school so I can see everything all the time. So I shove my laundry in a hamper and try and put the other clothes away when I get a chance.  It usually takes until the weekend.  I have to clean everyweekend because I'm not in my room long enough to clean it during the week.  I stack all of my books into piles, but I don't have anywhere to put them....

  • Yep. The piles thing. The clothes thing. Yep. Yep. The homework not handed in if it isn't in hand. Yep. For me AND my kiddos. One thing my son's psychiatrist finally got through to me was that it wasn't simply irresponsibility. And it wasn't necessarily defiance. It was that my son was simply wired differently than some others.

    And out of sight, out of mind? Yeah. Definitely. Which is why I beg my friends not to loan me anything; I know I will likely forget I have it and thus forget to return it.

    So... go with me to try to explain all this to my children's current set of teachers?

  • omg Kate, I had moments where I thought I was at the tip of Aspergers because I so related to them...wow.  And I am and was ADD or ADHD whatever they are calling it now; basically you say, "go brush your teeth" and between the bedroom and bathroom I get lost in something else.  My teachers thought I was doing it TO THEM and honestly, I wasn't.  I think the most important thing for an ADHD kid is to know that they are loved unconditionally, no matter what, just the way they are.  Nothing, and I mean NOTHING else matters.  (I was plenty able to make a good living.  I just needed to be challenged fast, quick, hard, faster, no over there, over here, now go climb that mountain, now go learn spanish.....now take that advanced course....)

  • I don't mind being strange. But I'VE never been stuck in a chicken house.

  • I just finished reading the comments and I'm seeing mass hysteria.

  • where, oh WHERE the heck were you 16 years ago?  I know, I know...now we have the internet and blogs and such....love this!

    so, we have a 22 year old son, just as ADHD as God can create! also, we have a 19 year old son with autism...joy in a bottle, I swear...but what a wild ride, parenting boys such as ours...BUT, wouldn't trade them for the world....oldest was diagnosed at age 6 and shortly thereafter, our youngest was diagnosed with autism....we strapped on our seatbelts and pretty much haven't taken them off....well, they are really loosed up and sometimes completely off nowadays....seriously, if you can believe it! we still have issues, but all the work and pain we went thru in the early years was worth it...money and time (time was really the biggest expense, I think)....it has made an imprint DEEP in our boys...and even though they are each very much like they were when they were younger, they are in fully grown bodies and have minds of thier own...we have to respect that and just hang on to the knowledge that we did the best for them and taught them ultimately, right from wrong...bottom line....they are good, caring individuals with hearts of gold...productive members of society....working, surviving and smiling...AND laughing a lot, too!

    I need to write more stories....tell more experiences....dang, I have just been talking about how I need to write more about my kiddos and life and such....the info you have shared the last two posts has been GREAT!! adulthood brings on challenges for our sons, but I think they are doing exactly what they should be doing....call it the "mothers instinct"......I always listened to it! damn good idea to do that....SOOOO agree with you! if we get to know each other, I can fill you in....heck, my site can fill you in pretty much....let me know if you want specific dates to read so you can get a RDCV (reader's digest condensed version!)....

    Austin?? hey, a Texan, are ya?  ...myself...myself....howdy! stop by and jump in for a ride sometime! I am glad to have randomly found you!

    and yes, I said autism and ADHD in the same house, 3 years apart....can you imagine if our walls could talk? lately,  I have been feeling like I should start talking more and more....honestly...a sense of humor saved our lives! I even have a post about that somehwere on here....

    maybe I stopped by for a reason....I needed to see this tonight...I have been thinking and thinking about my sons the last few days...about the past and the future....thanks for letting me ramble!

  • meant to tell you....

    both our sons are musicians....primarily percussion.....the oldest is calmed down with drumming...the rhythms and patterns....feeling the beats with the entire body...it's so true....and he discovered it when he went out to live on his own...he just knew it made him relax....he also plays guitar....

    the youngest has perfect pitch and all that...keen audio memory...as well as photographic...started music, piano at age 5....unfortunately, he's not studying any longer after 14 years of it, but we hope to change that once he's a bit more mature....he tried a year of college.........now, he's trying work over school this year....so far, so good....but we do have a piano at home for him....always have had one....

    truely amazing stuff....music is their best language....and I always knew it...another one of those "mom things"....

    music was and continues to be the best form of therapy for our sons....playing it, listening to it...and truthfully....the hubster and I are the same way....we love all typed of music....our boys were exposed to it a lot....thank goodness....

    I just wanted to tell you that...

  • LAST comment....promise....

    I listen to New Age all day long in my home office, too...it helps me focus....I just discovered it on my own...I have been doing that for years....

    (yes, I know ADHD is genetic...  ...do I ever!)

  • Hello Ms. K8t,
    You worked hard to make your site simple yet elegant. The pictures are a nice touch. I see that you have a wide variety of interesting observations here!
    I like to write articles about God and religion on my site to help people to really get to know God, especially in these troubled times. 14 When the good news about the kingdom has been preached all over the world and told to all nations, the end will come. (Matthew 24:14) (CEV) I hope you get a chance to look at them.

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